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aye - the world we live in is this ridiculus relativist state on mind - I can't understand why people follow this though, it makes no logical sense.

Amen to church stuff.

SO, what are WE going to do about it?


it scares me that someone who is leading a church is handing out that kind of message - what happened to "no one goes to the father except by me"? I believe (like you mentioned) that soon there will be many changes - before long it wont be enough to go to church and pay lip service, we will either be "in", radically committed to christ, or we will fall away, because our half-hearted faith wont be enough to sustain us in the times that are to come. But, that will leave a church which, even if smaller, will be united and determined. So bring it on!

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